Board Thread:Theories and Rumors/@comment-27507964-20160103012506

This is a convo about Clouse becoming a ghost that was started in the comments of OverlordRocks blog that I decided would be better as a full fledged forum chat.

OverlordRocks: So I just watched infamous on YouTube and it portrayed Clouse as a ghost. This confuses me because when he was in the Preeminent he didn't appear to be a ghost. Can someone please explain this to me?

EpicElijah: Inside the preeminent there was always a green fog (or something like fog which turned people to ghosts). It would be kinda hard to tell whether Clouse was a ghost or not because of the fog. He probably just looked human but we couldn't tell.

Luke Seaton: He was killed in Ninjago: Realm of Shadows, that takes place after season 5 and is canon to the TV series.

EpicElijah: It is meant as canon but it has holes, like Cole isn't a ghost and Zane isn't titanium. Those are large holes to me. If Cole isn't a ghost then Clouse could also not be a ghost and he could use his ghostiness to escape the cave collapse.

Luke Seaton: The cave in realm of shadows collapsed on him and crushed him dead. That's why he's a ghost in the next season.

EpicElijah: But now into deep Ninjago afterlife philosophy:

When a Ninjago character dies do they always become a ghost? When Morro died he became a ghost and his body was left behind. Obviously not everyone is sent to the cursed realm when they die, why else would there be the underworld? The cursed realm is a form of the afterlife, but it is not a "Hell". Morro was free to roam the cursed realm and help plot the overthrow of Ninjago. He was not being punished. Anyway, whatever sent Morro there when he died must've sent Clouse there when he died, whether it was spells or something else.

Also, Sensei Wu said Clouse escaped the cursed realm before it was destroyed. But if Clouse died in the cave collapse then his spirit can't have been sent to the cursed realm. It is all too complicated unless we entirely ditch realm of shadows as canon, which it obviously isn't. 