Board Thread:Theories and Rumors/@comment-43667629-20190921205822/@comment-35336328-20191001024033

TheLoner wrote: I'm going to get bullied a lot for saying this but I'm still going to say it: Lloyd deserved to be lied and used by Harumi. Seriously the guy got Harumi's parents killed and feels 0 remorse over it and don't start with "HE WAS JUST A KID!!!!!" or "SHE SHOULD'VE BLAMED PYTHOR INSTEAD!!!!!!" because the problem wasn't that he released Pythor, the problem is that HE DOESN'T FEEL ANY REMORSE over the fact that Pythor, who was released by Lloyd, caused the Great Devourer incident. If someone starts a fire and that fire kills people who do you blame? The fire or the person who started it? If Lloyd hadn't released Pythor Harumi would be alive and happy with her borth parents. Lloyd became just like his mother: In the end he cares about nothing but himself.

How would YOU feel like if something you did as a child ruined an innocent person's life? I would certainly feel devastated.

This is coming from someone who was once a HUGE Lloyd fan.

Let me explain

Lloyd released Pythor, yes, but by then he had no idea about the great devourer. If that were the case, then yeah, Lloyd did deliberately take lives for the sake of Candy. However, this isn't the case at all.

Lloyd, now the green Ninja, feels regret at releasing the serpentine. He even says it at Season 1, Episode 5: Can of Worms. You say he feels no regret, yet he SAYS it.

Now, I'm not saying he's a saint, no. He: Stole Candy Released the Serpentine for candy. Vandalized villages Released Pythor (Major)

However, Lloyd in time regrets his choices, and has grown up to be someone we all can trust and look up to.

Harumi however, she had no excuse. Yes, Lloyd indirectly caused the Great Devourer (Pythor released it, Lloyd just released Pythor, not knowing of the damage at the time), however, she decided on taking the oni masks, revive a Heartless Garmadon, caused thousands to die, and on top of that, killed her adopted parents, who (though strict) cared for her.

Yes, Lloyd may have indirectly caused that event, but at least he felt remorse (Again, can of worms). Harumi however, she felt no remorse for her actions, and even embraced them.

In conclusion, Lloyd, while flawed to MANY extents, still wants to be better, while Harumi didn't want redemption, and instead caused hundreds, if not thousands, injured or dead.