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  • For the record, this is Mysteryman3177's theory, just thought I'd revive it. Because Zane just got sent to the Neverrealm place. And he was holding the scroll of forbidden spinjitzu. So... does this mean Zane ends up being the Ice Emporer after all?

    (Again, Mysteryman3177's theory, not mine)

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    • SquidHunter573 wrote:
      For the record, this is Mysteryman3177's theory, just thought I'd revive it. Because Zane just got sent to the Neverrealm place. And he was holding the scroll of forbidden spinjitzu. So... does this mean Zane ends up being the Ice Emporer after all?

      (Again, Mysteryman3177's theory, not mine)

      Yes it makes complete sense the scrolls seem to make the user more violent and destructive, Zane was banished with the scroll and having it on him for that long will probably curropt him. He might turn bad and create an army of Frozen zombie warriors or join some of them. it is obvious.

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    • I personally can't see him forming an army... but if an army showed up and said "hey, you're powerful, all hail the Zane!"... that's the only way I can see things playing out.

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    • SquidHunter573 wrote:
      I personally can't see him forming an army... but if an army showed up and said "hey, you're powerful, all hail the Zane!"... that's the only way I can see things playing out.

      Either that or Zane will somehow use Forbidden Spinjitzu to put dead flesh of Samurai together to create an army of Frozen Zombie warriors completely under his control.

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    • The Ice Emperor is holding Scroll of Forbidden Spinjitzu in the set he's in, so mabie he never lets go of it because it possessed him, the season is called Secrets of Forbidden Spinjitzu, so we will probably have flashbacks of what forbidden Spinjitzu actually is because the episode Never Trust a Human didn't explain everything and we have 15 episodes left.

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    • I think the Ice Emperor is an an aincent samurai lord, who was cursed by the Scroll of Forbidden Spinjitzu. They look like statues and Zane will accidently awaken them, then they capture him and the Ice Emperor will steal the Scroll. The only way of freeing them from their curse, is destroying the Scroll. I don't think he is Zane, because I can't see a ninja becoming a main antagonist. Althrough, I can imagine the Ice Emperor posessing Zane like Morro did to Lloyd.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      I think the Ice Emperor is an an aincent samurai lord, who was cursed by the Scroll of Forbidden Spinjitzu. They look like statues and Zane will accidently awaken them, then they capture him and the Ice Emperor will steal the Scroll. The only way of freeing them from their curse, is destroying the Scroll. I don't think he is Zane, because I can't see a ninja becoming a main antagonist. Althrough, I can imagine the Ice Emperor posessing Zane like Morro did to Lloyd.

      Interesting theory but general vex is the only member with a proper name so I think he will be the true villian because he seems to be a shogun like figure. I think general vex will convince a corrupted Zane to become a Ice warlord, while Vex has the true power.

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    • The Overlord didn't have a proper name and he was the main villain, not Kozu or Cryptor. Your theory doesn't realy makes sense, a villain doesn't need a proper name, most villains don't even do and that is why they're so good villains. And again, I can't see a ninja becoming a main antagonist.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      The Overlord didn't have a proper name and he was the main villain, not Kozu or Cryptor. Your theory doesn't realy makes sense, a villain doesn't need a proper name, most villains don't even do and that is why they're so good villains. And again, I can't see a ninja becoming a main antagonist.

      Well I disagree I think this fanbase should care more about general Vex because he seems to be a clouse style villian.

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    • And we know what actor plays Vex and we don't know what actor plays the Ice Emperor so it is probably the same actor that plays Zane.

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    • Probably not. My bet is on Scott McNeill or a new actor.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      Probably not. My bet is on Scott McNeill or a new actor.

      But it,s obvious Zane is the ice emperor and if he is possessed it will probably be the same actor. And Zane does not get a set or even mentioned in the 2020 set list leaks. So it makes sense that he turned bad. 

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      Probably not. My bet is on Scott McNeill or a new actor.
      But it,s obvious Zane is the ice emperor and if he is possessed it will probably be the same actor. And Zane does not get a set or even mentioned in the 2020 set list leaks. So it makes sense that he turned bad. 

      This is wrong because of these reasons:

      1. It's not obivous that Zane is the Ice Emperor.

      2. If he is posessed, that doesn't mean he will have the same actor, because Lloyd and Morro or Garmadon and the Overlord had different voice actors.

      3. It's not 2020, it's the second wave of 2019 sets.

      4. Zane is in the Shuricopter and Lloyd's Titan Mech, both are Never-Realm sets.

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    • The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.

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    • Chimadino wrote: The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      No... no, that isn't how any of this works. The plot twists are decided before the fans see anything.. theories are people making guesses based on evidence, and then those happen to be true, not LEGO rewriting the story based on what people think. No one knew what a Green Ninja or a Lloyd was when Season 1 was written. It take a year to animate episodes. Mr. E isn't Echo Zane because their wasn't enough time, not because of fans.. who wouldn't have even known he existed yet.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      SquidHunter573 wrote:
      I personally can't see him forming an army... but if an army showed up and said "hey, you're powerful, all hail the Zane!"... that's the only way I can see things playing out.
      Either that or Zane will somehow use Forbidden Spinjitzu to put dead flesh of Samurai together to create an army of Frozen Zombie warriors completely under his control.

      I don't think so. Too much like Chima.

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    • Warptoad wrote:

      Chimadino wrote: The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      No... no, that isn't how any of this works. The plot twists are decided before the fans see anything.. theories are people making guesses based on evidence, and then those happen to be true, not LEGO rewriting the story based on what people think. No one knew what a Green Ninja or a Lloyd was when Season 1 was written. It take a year to animate episodes. Mr. E isn't Echo Zane because their wasn't enough time, not because of fans.. who wouldn't have even known he existed yet.

      No, I meant when these mysterious characters frst appear on screen, the fans start to theorize who that could be. The fans don't know who they are going to be, so they star to theorize who he is. I don't think you undrerstood what I meant.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.

      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.

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    • Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.

      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.

      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.
      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.

      I think the Ice Emperor will be similar to Aspheera (Only in male form) and Vex will be similar to Char.

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    • Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.
      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.

      I think the Ice Emperor will be similar to Aspheera (Only in male form) and Vex will be similar to Char.

      Well Char is similar to flintlock and The Ice Emperor is forsaken so it will probably be similar to feudal Japan with the Samurai working for a Shogun who will be General Vex with the Ice emperor being just a power head. Like how Master Chen was just a powerhead while Clouse held the true power. I think Vex will be a Clouse style villain not a thinly developed villain like cryptor or Kozu.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:


      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.
      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be similar to Aspheera (Only in male form) and Vex will be similar to Char.
      Well Char is similar to flintlock and The Ice Emperor is forsaken so it will probably be similar to feudal Japan with the Samurai working for a Shogun who will be General Vex with the Ice emperor being just a power head. Like how Master Chen was just a powerhead while Clouse held the true power. I think Vex will be a Clouse style villain not a thinly developed villain like cryptor or Kozu.

      Well, I don't think so. I think Vex will be just a random general serving under the Ice Emperor.

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    • Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:


      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.
      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be similar to Aspheera (Only in male form) and Vex will be similar to Char.
      Well Char is similar to flintlock and The Ice Emperor is forsaken so it will probably be similar to feudal Japan with the Samurai working for a Shogun who will be General Vex with the Ice emperor being just a power head. Like how Master Chen was just a powerhead while Clouse held the true power. I think Vex will be a Clouse style villain not a thinly developed villain like cryptor or Kozu.

      Well, I don't think so. I think Vex will be just a random general serving under the Ice Emperor.

      Well I hope your wrong because you were wrong about Char and the seasons are better when we get character development for villains.

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    • Are everyone forgetting that in "The Explorer's Club" Zane saw his worse fear was of losing his humanity and becoming only a machine. Let's see, Zane is lost in the Never-Realm while still holding the Forbidden Scroll, what little we can see of the Ice Emperor's face under the helmet makes him look similar to Zane, and he has an ice dragon under his command. It's not hard to see that the clues is leaning towards Zane having become the Ice Emperor. the real question that's making it difficult to say that he really is the Ice Emperor for sure, is the motivation and/or reason of doing it.

      the scrolls of Forbidden Spinjitzu doesn't seem to automatically make someone evil, because why then would the FSM make them then? It's more that the sheer power boost that the scrolls give can make one lose sight of what they are doing or might do. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely https://youtu.be/WI4WLHZNFmo

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:


      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:


      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.
      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be similar to Aspheera (Only in male form) and Vex will be similar to Char.
      Well Char is similar to flintlock and The Ice Emperor is forsaken so it will probably be similar to feudal Japan with the Samurai working for a Shogun who will be General Vex with the Ice emperor being just a power head. Like how Master Chen was just a powerhead while Clouse held the true power. I think Vex will be a Clouse style villain not a thinly developed villain like cryptor or Kozu.
      Well, I don't think so. I think Vex will be just a random general serving under the Ice Emperor.
      Well I hope your wrong because you were wrong about Char and the seasons are better when we get character development for villains.

      When I was wrong about Char? I literally never said anyting about him that turned out to be wrong. I think my theory makes more sense.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      Are everyone forgetting that in "The Explorer's Club" Zane saw his worse fear was of losing his humanity and becoming only a machine. Let's see, Zane is lost in the Never-Realm while still holding the Forbidden Scroll, what little we can see of the Ice Emperor's face under the helmet makes him look similar to Zane, and he has an ice dragon under his command. It's not hard to see that the clues is leaning towards Zane having become the Ice Emperor. the real question that's making it difficult to say that he really is the Ice Emperor for sure, is the motivation and/or reason of doing it.

      the scrolls of Forbidden Spinjitzu doesn't seem to automatically make someone evil, because why then would the FSM make them then? It's more that the sheer power boost that the scrolls give can make one lose sight of what they are doing or might do. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely https://youtu.be/WI4WLHZNFmo

      It's still highely unlikely for a ninja to become a main antagonist.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Are everyone forgetting that in "The Explorer's Club" Zane saw his worse fear was of losing his humanity and becoming only a machine. Let's see, Zane is lost in the Never-Realm while still holding the Forbidden Scroll, what little we can see of the Ice Emperor's face under the helmet makes him look similar to Zane, and he has an ice dragon under his command. It's not hard to see that the clues is leaning towards Zane having become the Ice Emperor. the real question that's making it difficult to say that he really is the Ice Emperor for sure, is the motivation and/or reason of doing it.

      the scrolls of Forbidden Spinjitzu doesn't seem to automatically make someone evil, because why then would the FSM make them then? It's more that the sheer power boost that the scrolls give can make one lose sight of what they are doing or might do. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely https://youtu.be/WI4WLHZNFmo

      It's still highely unlikely for a ninja to become a main antagonist.

      I don't think the Ice emperor is the main villian I think Shogun Vex will be the main villian.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Are everyone forgetting that in "The Explorer's Club" Zane saw his worse fear was of losing his humanity and becoming only a machine. Let's see, Zane is lost in the Never-Realm while still holding the Forbidden Scroll, what little we can see of the Ice Emperor's face under the helmet makes him look similar to Zane, and he has an ice dragon under his command. It's not hard to see that the clues is leaning towards Zane having become the Ice Emperor. the real question that's making it difficult to say that he really is the Ice Emperor for sure, is the motivation and/or reason of doing it.

      the scrolls of Forbidden Spinjitzu doesn't seem to automatically make someone evil, because why then would the FSM make them then? It's more that the sheer power boost that the scrolls give can make one lose sight of what they are doing or might do. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely https://youtu.be/WI4WLHZNFmo

      It's still highely unlikely for a ninja to become a main antagonist.
      I don't think the Ice emperor is the main villian I think Shogun Vex will be the main villian.

      The Ice Emperor seems more likely to be the main villain, Vex is just a general.

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    • Yes but he either is Zane or is possessing Zane.

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    • The Ice emperor look's similar to Zane in Hunted Don't you see the Simularity between these two minifigures and He also looks similar to The Spinjitzu Slam minifigure of Zane.
      Forbidden Spinjitzu Zane Spinjitzu Slam Version
       and They are not in the same set together.
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    • Here is the unmasked Head of Spinjitzu Slam Zane the Mouth is very similar to the Ice Emperor's.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Here is the unmasked Head of Spinjitzu Slam Zane the Mouth is very similar to the Ice Emperor's.
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      uh, i think you are forgetting that the Ice Emperor is wearing some samurai helmet with a mouth guard that looks like a monstrous mouth.

      on the subject of "Zane can't be the ice emperor, because he is in the ice sets and thus can't be the ice emperor", even though, the Sets are not based on things in the show, the show is based on the sets.

      Unless one wish to argue that "Overborg Attack" did happen in the show:

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    • Well it all existed, it just didn't occur as them battling. The two vehicles both existed. It is just they never met. That way, they want you to think it can't be but it is or visa versa.

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    • In the show

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Yes but he either is Zane or is possessing Zane.

      Posessing Zane is more likely. I seem to find similarities beetween the Ice Emperor and Posessed Lloyd.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      The Ice emperor look's similar to Zane in Hunted Don't you see the Simularity between these two minifigures and He also looks similar to The Spinjitzu Slam minifigure of Zane.
      Forbidden Spinjitzu Zane Spinjitzu Slam Version
       and They are not in the same set together.
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      The Ice Emperor being similar to Hunted Zane is likely codencidence. Zane didn't wear his Hunted robes in a while.

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    • There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

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    • Well that is his perspective from the dream. We don't know if he ever got to see himself like this.

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    • SkyNinja17 wrote:
      Well that is his perspective from the dream. We don't know if he ever got to see himself like this.

      really, none of the images that were seen in Zane's vision happen in reality. there was no moment of a massive army of Pyro Vipers marching into Ninjago city with banners and everything. No moment of Zane apparently laying on the ground while the army of Pyro Vipers marched towards him with the Fire Fang looking down on him. Those were dramatifications of the events and really, it's not hard to imagine Zane "looking" at his future self who in return looks back.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      SkyNinja17 wrote:
      Well that is his perspective from the dream. We don't know if he ever got to see himself like this.
      really, none of the images that were seen in Zane's vision happen in reality. there was no moment of a massive army of Pyro Vipers marching into Ninjago city with banners and everything. No moment of Zane apparently laying on the ground while the army of Pyro Vipers marched towards him with the Fire Fang looking down on him. Those were dramatifications of the events and really, it's not hard to imagine Zane "looking" at his future self who in return looks back.

      Yes, but I highly doubt the Ice Emperor is Zane. As long as it isn't seen in the show or Tommy doesn't confirm anything, it's just a theory.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.

      How can a statue posess him? And how can you spell dragon correctly but can't spell maybe correctly?

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.
      How can a statue posess him? And how can you spell posess correctly but can't spell maybe correctly?

      I think their logic is less "the statue possesses him" and more "a spirit inside the statue possesses him".

      It happens at times in stories that some person's spirit is willingly or unwillingly put inside of an inanimate object to keep them there.

      For example in an episode of Disney's Aladdin cartoon, the Sultan puts on a suit of armor that once belonged to a powerful man named Kileem. Over time Kileem's spirit takes control over him and the only way to stop him from starting a great war with the other kingdoms in the land was to destroy a statue of Kileem that the armor originally was placed on, which once destroyed, unleashed and later destroyed Kileem's spirit.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.
      How can a statue posess him? And how can you spell posess correctly but can't spell maybe correctly?
      I think their logic is less "the statue possesses him" and more "a spirit inside the statue possesses him".

      It happens at times in stories that some person's spirit is willingly or unwillingly put inside of an inanimate object to keep them there.

      For example in an episode of Disney's Aladdin cartoon, the Sultan puts on a suit of armor that once belonged to a powerful man named Kileem. Over time Kileem's spirit takes control over him and the only way to stop him from starting a great war with the other kingdoms in the land was to destroy a statue of Kileem that the armor originally was placed on, which once destroyed, unleashed and later destroyed Kileem's spirit.

      And the Horcruxes from Harry Potter and the Monkey trinket from Kubo and the Two Strings are some other examples.

      this is probably what will happen. but we don't know what the statue was because we only saw it in a dream that the events have happened with variation. And the Ice emperor might be connected to the Scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu and mabie the scroll is a Horcrux style object with the soul if the ice emperor and it will curropt Zane into becoming a Forsaken Powerhead.  and mabie we will get flashback episodes about the Blizzard Samurai Origins, I think the first Spinjitzu master created them because he told wu to never go to the Never-Realm and that he almost couldn't find the way back, I think this story will be expanded in a flashback episode about The First Spinjitzu master causing the realm to fall into a Eternal Winter, And I think he stole the Scrolls from Akita's people used enchanted Ice and dead flesh to create Blizzard Samurai and that he needed the power of both scrolls to get back to ninjago. I think the Blizzard Samurai Origin will be something like this.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.
      How can a statue posess him? And how can you spell posess correctly but can't spell maybe correctly?
      I think their logic is less "the statue possesses him" and more "a spirit inside the statue possesses him".

      It happens at times in stories that some person's spirit is willingly or unwillingly put inside of an inanimate object to keep them there.

      For example in an episode of Disney's Aladdin cartoon, the Sultan puts on a suit of armor that once belonged to a powerful man named Kileem. Over time Kileem's spirit takes control over him and the only way to stop him from starting a great war with the other kingdoms in the land was to destroy a statue of Kileem that the armor originally was placed on, which once destroyed, unleashed and later destroyed Kileem's spirit.

      And the Horcruxes from Harry Potter and the Monkey trinket from Kubo and the Two Strings are some other examples.

      this is probably what will happen. but we don't know what the statue was because we only saw it in a dream that the events have happened with variation. And the Ice emperor might be connected to the Scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu and mabie the scroll is a Horcrux style object with the soul if the ice emperor and it will curropt Zane into becoming a Forsaken Powerhead.  and mabie we will get flashback episodes about the Blizzard Samurai Origins, I think the first Spinjitzu master created them because he told wu to never go to the Never-Realm and that he almost couldn't find the way back, I think this story will be expanded in a flashback episode about The First Spinjitzu master causing the realm to fall into a Eternal Winter, And I think he stole the Scrolls from Akita's people used enchanted Ice and dead flesh to create Blizzard Samurai and that he needed the power of both scrolls to get back to ninjago. I think the Blizzard Samurai Origin will be something like this.

      The statues in the Hall of Villainy, anyone?

      I think the Ice Emperor's spirit will posess Zane and the Ninja will have to free him from the Emperor's control. I also have a theory about the Blizzard Samurai's origin, if it doesn't happen in the show, then I will put it into my canon.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.
      How can a statue posess him? And how can you spell posess correctly but can't spell maybe correctly?
      I think their logic is less "the statue possesses him" and more "a spirit inside the statue possesses him".

      It happens at times in stories that some person's spirit is willingly or unwillingly put inside of an inanimate object to keep them there.

      For example in an episode of Disney's Aladdin cartoon, the Sultan puts on a suit of armor that once belonged to a powerful man named Kileem. Over time Kileem's spirit takes control over him and the only way to stop him from starting a great war with the other kingdoms in the land was to destroy a statue of Kileem that the armor originally was placed on, which once destroyed, unleashed and later destroyed Kileem's spirit.

      And the Horcruxes from Harry Potter and the Monkey trinket from Kubo and the Two Strings are some other examples.

      this is probably what will happen. but we don't know what the statue was because we only saw it in a dream that the events have happened with variation. And the Ice emperor might be connected to the Scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu and mabie the scroll is a Horcrux style object with the soul if the ice emperor and it will curropt Zane into becoming a Forsaken Powerhead.  and mabie we will get flashback episodes about the Blizzard Samurai Origins, I think the first Spinjitzu master created them because he told wu to never go to the Never-Realm and that he almost couldn't find the way back, I think this story will be expanded in a flashback episode about The First Spinjitzu master causing the realm to fall into a Eternal Winter, And I think he stole the Scrolls from Akita's people used enchanted Ice and dead flesh to create Blizzard Samurai and that he needed the power of both scrolls to get back to ninjago. I think the Blizzard Samurai Origin will be something like this.

      The statues in the Hall of Villainy, anyone?

      I think the Ice Emperor's spirit will posess Zane and the Ninja will have to free him from the Emperor's control. I also have a theory about the Blizzard Samurai's origin, if it doesn't happen in the show, then I will put it into my canon.

      there will defenitly be some kind of origin even if it is stupid like  the Dragon Hunters.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      There is some proof that Zane isn't the Ice Emperor.
      Ice Emperor Show Style

      The Ice Emperor sitting on his throne in Zane's vision is from Zane's perspective.

      or Mabie this is just a statue and that it will posess Zane and that this is him sending the Ice dragon to attack Zane so he can possess him.
      How can a statue posess him? And how can you spell posess correctly but can't spell maybe correctly?
      I think their logic is less "the statue possesses him" and more "a spirit inside the statue possesses him".

      It happens at times in stories that some person's spirit is willingly or unwillingly put inside of an inanimate object to keep them there.

      For example in an episode of Disney's Aladdin cartoon, the Sultan puts on a suit of armor that once belonged to a powerful man named Kileem. Over time Kileem's spirit takes control over him and the only way to stop him from starting a great war with the other kingdoms in the land was to destroy a statue of Kileem that the armor originally was placed on, which once destroyed, unleashed and later destroyed Kileem's spirit.

      And the Horcruxes from Harry Potter and the Monkey trinket from Kubo and the Two Strings are some other examples.

      this is probably what will happen. but we don't know what the statue was because we only saw it in a dream that the events have happened with variation. And the Ice emperor might be connected to the Scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu and mabie the scroll is a Horcrux style object with the soul if the ice emperor and it will curropt Zane into becoming a Forsaken Powerhead.  and mabie we will get flashback episodes about the Blizzard Samurai Origins, I think the first Spinjitzu master created them because he told wu to never go to the Never-Realm and that he almost couldn't find the way back, I think this story will be expanded in a flashback episode about The First Spinjitzu master causing the realm to fall into a Eternal Winter, And I think he stole the Scrolls from Akita's people used enchanted Ice and dead flesh to create Blizzard Samurai and that he needed the power of both scrolls to get back to ninjago. I think the Blizzard Samurai Origin will be something like this.

      The statues in the Hall of Villainy, anyone?

      I think the Ice Emperor's spirit will posess Zane and the Ninja will have to free him from the Emperor's control. I also have a theory about the Blizzard Samurai's origin, if it doesn't happen in the show, then I will put it into my canon.

      there will defenitly be some kind of origin even if it is stupid like  the Dragon Hunters.

      They always explain the villain or the villain faction's origins.

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    • Oh man what have I done, you guys are hardcore XD

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    • Well does anybody else have a theory or wan't to post here

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    • Zane is ABSOLUTELY not the Ice Emperor I beat that Ice Emperor is a dude made of Ice that is an Emperor name the Ice Emperor

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    • I think the Ice Emperor is a samurai emperor corrupted by Forbidden Spinjitzu, just like his army.

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    • so you think he and his army can do spinjitzu

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    • I think the Blizzard Warriors, General Vex and the Ice emperor can but the Archers and Sword Masters Can't.

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    • This theory is very unlikely now and almost confirmed to be incorrect. It was mentioned that the Ice Emperor conquered that realm decades ago and Zane just came there. Unless time passes differently there, the Ice Emperor can not be Zane.

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    • Well he might be possesing zane,  we have only seen about a minute of it and zane was captured by him, so mabie the ice emperor we saw in the episode is actually a possesed Zane.

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    • i mean, there is something about the Ice Emperor's appearance that just fits with Zane's titanium Ninja appearance. And really, if the Ice Emperor is just a spirit, it would make sense that he would want a stronger, immortal Nindroid body to walk around it, plus the fact that Zane has the power of Ice AND one of the scrolls for Forbidden Spinjitzu would just make him that much more valuable to him.

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    • I know mabie the ice emperor is the dragon and we see that the people are frozen probably being drained of live and forced to become Blizzard Samurai. Mabie decades ago the dragon took over and used several hosts as bodies for himself until recently when he found Zane he froze him with the Ice dragon and is slowly torturing him until the Ice emperor can transfer his consciousness to Zane so he can rule the realm for another lifetime.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      I know mabie the ice emperor is the dragon and we see that the people are frozen probably being drained of live and forced to become Blizzard Samurai. Mabie decades ago the dragon took over and used several hosts as bodies for himself until recently when he found Zane he froze him with the Ice dragon and is slowly torturing him until the Ice emperor can transfer his consciousness to Zane so he can rule the realm for another lifetime.

      ... you mean the Ice Emperor is a bit like an ice version of the Overlord?

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    • after having watched the episode, i am still not convinced that Zane is not really the ice emperor. we are never shown an image of him in the precense of the Ice Emperor, and some of the things that is said in the last part of the episode makes me wonder if the Ice Emperor is not some kind of "Legion" like entity. Given General Vex's line of "show them your mind" and the Emperor's annoyed question to Vex on why he was disturbing him, makes it come of that the "Emperor" might be some mind based entity and that Zane has just become an "avatar" for the being to speak through. It also made me wonder if the people frozen by the Emperor's ice might not actually have had their minds be joined with the Emperor.

      plus, the scene seemed to hint at Vex being possibly the true "brain" behind the Blizzard Samurai, given his "suggestions" for what the Emperor should do.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      after having watched the episode, i am still not convinced that Zane is not really the ice emperor. we are never shown an image of him in the precense of the Ice Emperor, and some of the things that is said in the last part of the episode makes me wonder if the Ice Emperor is not some kind of "Legion" like entity. Given General Vex's line of "show them your mind" and the Emperor's annoyed question to Vex on why he was disturbing him, makes it come of that the "Emperor" might be some mind based entity and that Zane has just become an "avatar" for the being to speak through. It also made me wonder if the people frozen by the Emperor's ice might not actually have had their minds be joined with the Emperor.

      plus, the scene seemed to hint at Vex being possibly the true "brain" behind the Blizzard Samurai, given his "suggestions" for what the Emperor should do.

      I think what he might have said was "might'.

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    • I don't know

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    • Mabie Time passes differently in the Never-Realm and one day in ninjago is decades in the Never-Realm, mabie after all that time zane was currupted and believed the ninja had forgotten him and General Vex knows about it and wan'ts them eleminated so Zane never finds out. This was a theory that I thought and DailyRoLord on youtube made a theory video saying that. And the prisoner could be Akita. This makes sense because Tommy andreson said that time passes differently in some realms, and that because of that the Sky pirates were still alive. This way it would be a big twist coming later in the season.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCgzTmCvyrQ

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    • First of all, spelling. It is maybe, not "mabie." Second of all, it will not really be a big twist considering this was a popular theory. 

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    • Also, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think that the Ninja are there for her? Zane being the Ice Emperor is just extremely unlikely at this point.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Also, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think that the Ninja are there for her? Zane being the Ice Emperor is just extremely unlikely at this point.

      Because Sorla doesn't no much all they saw was a picture of the Ice emperor and the assumed zane was the prisoner and if it Isn't Akita then why didn't she apear in the scene with the wolves or with the people, It is likely that the ninja will raid the castile, free Akita only to find out Zane is not there and actually he is the Ice emperor because of Time differences with the realm. Tommy andreson said that time is different in some realms and that is why the Sky pirates are still alive, so is it to far fetched that the series will have that as a twist. It makes sense that a curupted by Forbidden Spinjitzu Zane would believe the ninja forgot about him after several decades, especially if he was taught the Secrets of Dark Ice and after decades his voice box would probably be changed giving him a different voice actor. and on top of that his name is not mensioned in any 2020 sets so maybe something will happen to him like being banished back to ninjago while the ninja have to go through another realm or staying the Ice emperor and creating Tech villians after adopting a new name or Dying, which is extremely unlikely.

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    • You seem to be missing the point. Why would Vex think they are here for the prisoner, if the prisoner is Akita? They do not even know her.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      You seem to be missing the point. Why would Vex think they are here for the prisoner, if the prisoner is Akita? They do not even know her.

      Vex is lying so the Ice emperor won't know they are the ninja, He wan'ts him to think the strangers are from another realm and have come to free akita. While the truth is Vex just wants them dead so he can keep Zane in the Ice Emperor form.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Also, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think that the Ninja are there for her? Zane being the Ice Emperor is just extremely unlikely at this point.

      Keep in mind that there have been prior occations were the Ninja have gotten info that lead them to the wrong conclusion. Plus the image that the flame shows does not show Zane in a prison in the castle of Ice, but just the castle. It's probably following the logic of "he is a prisoner, but not in the way you think he is"

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      Also, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think that the Ninja are there for her? Zane being the Ice Emperor is just extremely unlikely at this point.
      Keep in mind that there have been prior occations were the Ninja have gotten info that lead them to the wrong conclusion. Plus the image that the flame shows does not show Zane in a prison in the castle of Ice, but just the castle. It's probably following the logic of "he is a prisoner, but not in the way you think he is"

      I am not saying Zane is definitely the prisoner, but like I said earlier, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think they are there for her?

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      Also, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think that the Ninja are there for her? Zane being the Ice Emperor is just extremely unlikely at this point.
      Keep in mind that there have been prior occations were the Ninja have gotten info that lead them to the wrong conclusion. Plus the image that the flame shows does not show Zane in a prison in the castle of Ice, but just the castle. It's probably following the logic of "he is a prisoner, but not in the way you think he is"
      I am not saying Zane is definitely the prisoner, but like I said earlier, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think they are there for her?

      I'm going more by the idea that, if the Ice Emperor is a being that is possessing Zane, then he is still a prisoner to the Ice Emperor, just not in the same way as being in jail. Vex could then still refer to Zane as their "prisoner". Of course, something i just realized now is that, there isn't anything that's saying that the "prisoner" has to be either Zane or Akita. For all we know the writers could be preparing a twist and the prisoner that Vex is talking about might be someone else who has gotten stuck in the realm. after all, the scene didn't have him say "strangers from a distant realm is looking for someone named "Zane", I believe they are seeking your prisoner."

      What he did say was: "strangers from a distant realm, come to challenge you. They may be here for the prisoner and to defy your rule." 

      He never brings up the name of the person that the "strangers" were looking for.

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    • I saw the episode again and sorla said they hadn't seen anyone else in years. So they didn't see Zane meaning it would make sense that Zane had arrived decades before do to a time difference. And the Ice emperor looks like an older Zane.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      Also, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think that the Ninja are there for her? Zane being the Ice Emperor is just extremely unlikely at this point.
      Keep in mind that there have been prior occations were the Ninja have gotten info that lead them to the wrong conclusion. Plus the image that the flame shows does not show Zane in a prison in the castle of Ice, but just the castle. It's probably following the logic of "he is a prisoner, but not in the way you think he is"
      I am not saying Zane is definitely the prisoner, but like I said earlier, if the prisoner was Akita, why would Vex think they are there for her?
      I'm going more by the idea that, if the Ice Emperor is a being that is possessing Zane, then he is still a prisoner to the Ice Emperor, just not in the same way as being in jail. Vex could then still refer to Zane as their "prisoner". Of course, something i just realized now is that, there isn't anything that's saying that the "prisoner" has to be either Zane or Akita. For all we know the writers could be preparing a twist and the prisoner that Vex is talking about might be someone else who has gotten stuck in the realm. after all, the scene didn't have him say "strangers from a distant realm is looking for someone named "Zane", I believe they are seeking your prisoner."

      What he did say was: "strangers from a distant realm, come to challenge you. They may be here for the prisoner and to defy your rule." 

      He never brings up the name of the person that the "strangers" were looking for.

      Yeah, but why would Vex believe that they are there for that person?

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      I think the Blizzard Warriors, General Vex and the Ice emperor can but the Archers and Sword Masters Can't.

      I think all of them can.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      I saw the episode again and sorla said they hadn't seen anyone else in years. So they didn't see Zane meaning it would make sense that Zane had arrived decades before do to a time difference. And the Ice emperor looks like an older Zane.

      I haven't seen the episode but:

      1. I don't think time works differently.

      2. Zane could have hid somwhere, then he was found by the Blizzard Samurai, so they maybe just didn't see them.

      3. The only similarity between Zane and the Ice Emperor is their eyebrows.

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    • Time actually does work differently in some realms, since Flintlocke, a normal human was able to survive 200 years in another realm. For the other Sky Pirates, we could blame it on their mutations (except from Clancee, who is a Serpentine. Serpentine are likely to have a longer lifespan than humans), but since Flintlocke is a normal human, there would be no other explanation for him still being alive in S6.

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    • But, yeah, other than that what Chimadino said is true. Zane could have just ended up at a place that is very far from the village, them saying they have not seen anyone in years does not necessarily mean that time works differently there and Zane arrived decades ago. Also, the Ice Emperor does not "look like an older Zane". In fact, Zane would never look older, since he is a robot and robots do not age.

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    • Yes, but maybe they were trapped in some sort of "frozen" state like the Ice Hunters in Chima and they did not age. And time only works differently in some realms not all.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Time actually does work differently in some realms, since Flintlocke, a normal human was able to survive 200 years in another realm. For the other Sky Pirates, we could blame it on their mutations (except from Clancee, who is a Serpentine. Serpentine are likely to have a longer lifespan than humans), but since Flintlocke is a normal human, there would be no other explanation for him still being alive in S6.

      Serpintine probably have shorter live spands then humans this would explain why scales had a son so quick.

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    • Doubt that, considering none of the Serpentine died in the 40 years they were imprisoned in the tombs (The Anacondrai died for a different reason, so you can not use them as an example). They were all adults during the war and 40 years later they appear to be still in their prime.

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    • I don't thinki they were adults during the war, more like the same age as Wu and Garmadon were (Except Arcturus, who was at least 40) and they must be about 60-70 years old in the present.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Time actually does work differently in some realms, since Flintlocke, a normal human was able to survive 200 years in another realm. For the other Sky Pirates, we could blame it on their mutations (except from Clancee, who is a Serpentine. Serpentine are likely to have a longer lifespan than humans), but since Flintlocke is a normal human, there would be no other explanation for him still being alive in S6.

      Also, I said that I doubt time works differently in just the Never-Realm, not all the realms.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      I don't thinki they were adults during the war, more like the same age as Wu and Garmadon were (Except Arcturus, who was at least 40) and they must be about 60-70 years old in the present.

      Adult means 20+. They were at least in their early 20s during the war and now are at least in their early 60s, though they could also be older.

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    • I personally think that the Ice Emperor is just possessing Zane I mean that would explain the dragon and the whole "mysterious prisoner" type of thing. Maybe the only way to escape the Never-Realm is with dragons and when the FSM got there he brought Firstbourne so he was able to escape and since for some reason the ninja don't know how to use dragons it would make it harder for the ninja to escape.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      I don't thinki they were adults during the war, more like the same age as Wu and Garmadon were (Except Arcturus, who was at least 40) and they must be about 60-70 years old in the present.
      Adult means 20+. They were at least in their early 20s during the war and now are at least in their early 60s, though they could also be older.

      Yes, that's what I said. Altough Arcturus could have been older, because 20 is a bit too young for a leader.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Here is the unmasked Head of Spinjitzu Slam Zane the Mouth is very similar to the Ice Emperor's.
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      The Spinjitzu Slam sets are probably aren't canon to the show.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:


      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Well we will know around the tenth of august. and I'm not saying Zane will be the main villian but I think the Ice Emperor will not be the main villian I think General Vex will be the main villian and it will counterdict what tommy andreasen said about him being the main villian and that General Vex will make Zane a Forsaken Powerhead.
      I think the Ice Emperor will be the main villain and General Vex will be a Skales/Kozu/Cryptor/Eyezor/Flintlocke/Machia/Char type character who is just merely a general. Tommy didn't say anything yet. I think my theory makes more sense.
      I think the Ice emperor will be similar to Master Chen and General Vex will be similar to Clouse.

      I think the Ice Emperor will be similiar to Epmeror Palpatine and General Vex will be similiar to Count Dooku from Star Wars.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Here is the unmasked Head of Spinjitzu Slam Zane the Mouth is very similar to the Ice Emperor's.
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      The Spinjitzu Slam sets are probably aren't canon to the show.

      Well the head looks similar to the ice emperor in the new episode.

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    • Ninja72 wrote: Also, the Ice Emperor does not "look like an older Zane". In fact, Zane would never look older, since he is a robot and robots do not age.

      Time and being trapped in a frozen wasteland would still wear him down. And he can change his appearance at will.

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    • plus when looking at the images of the Ice Emperor and Zane from the show, there are a few similarities between the two that one can notice. Mind you, those similarities doesn't outright confirm that they are the same person. but i couldn't help but notice them:

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      For example, both have light blue gloves(?) and white cloth on their arms, and the Ice emperor's armor in the show looks to be colored gray instead of white, making him look more like a "titanium samurai". again, this doesn't prove much, but it's something that i noticed, and the more i watched of the episode, the more i started to move back to the idea that Zane is indeed the Ice Emperor. Plus there is that "deepest fear" that was revealed in "The Explorer's Club" about losing his humanity. Can't help but feel that, given how long he might have been holding on to the Forbidden scroll and being alone in the Never-Realm, that he might not be the same Nindroid that the Ninja know and love when they find him.
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    • i wish da pryo vipers could do a huge battle with the blizzards!

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    • Chimadino wrote: The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Harumi was theorized to be the Quiet One. It came true.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      plus when looking at the images of the Ice Emperor and Zane from the show, there are a few similarities between the two that one can notice. Mind you, those similarities doesn't outright confirm that they are the same person. but i couldn't help but notice them:
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      For example, both have light blue gloves(?) and white cloth on their arms, and the Ice emperor's armor in the show looks to be colored gray instead of white, making him look more like a "titanium samurai". again, this doesn't prove much, but it's something that i noticed, and the more i watched of the episode, the more i started to move back to the idea that Zane is indeed the Ice Emperor. Plus there is that "deepest fear" that was revealed in "The Explorer's Club" about losing his humanity. Can't help but feel that, given how long he might have been holding on to the Forbidden scroll and being alone in the Never-Realm, that he might not be the same Nindroid that the Ninja know and love when they find him.

      This could be just pure coincidence.

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    • Emperor Serpentine wrote:

      Chimadino wrote: The thing is, that we don't know for sure that Zane is the Ice Emperor. I belive LEGO has learned from their mistakes because in the past years:

      1. Lloyd was theorized to be the Green Ninja. It come true.

      2. Lloyd was theorized to be the Golden Ninja. It come true.

      3. Pythor was theorized to be the Stranger. It come true.

      4. Nya was theorized to be the Water Ninja. It come true.

      5. Pixal was theorized to be the Samurai X. It come true

      6. Wu was theorized to be the Mysterious Baby. It come true

      7. Wu was theorized to be the Golden Samurai. It come true.

      8. Echo Zane was theorized to be Mr. E. It was scrapped.

      These theories all come from the fans. LEGO made them true, except the last one, because appearently LEGO learned that the fans aren't the writers of the show. So, I think the Ice Emperor is a new character. But only Tommy Andreasen knows the truth.

      Harumi was theorized to be the Quiet One. It came true.

      there was no Golden Samurai and it was more like controller of all dragons

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    • In episode 115 and 116 nya said the tracker had a new battery and that it doesn't make sense. We haven't seen the mech yet so it is probably old and rusty do to being submerged in snow for decades. This is more proof of time travel. And we did not see the face of the shadowy figure in the Prison. So it might not be Zane it could be Fugi-Dove or somebody else.

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    • We haven't seen anyone banished  yet and all we saw in the jail was a shadowy figure, the ninja woudn't age because it is at the point of view of the Never-Realm now.

      And in episode 112 when Aspheera told wu about the banishment he ran, because he knows that bye the time they get their he will be a old rusty nindroid. And that is wht nobody returns because bye the time people have a chance to save them they are already long dead.

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    • Nvm, I was not paying enough attention and did not realise that Lloyd s Mech is in the Never-Realm. Still, it is only a theory regardless. There is not that much evidence to suggest Zane is the Ice Emperor.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Nvm, I was not paying enough attention and did not realise that Lloyd s Mech is in the Never-Realm. Still, it is only a theory regardless. There is not that much evidence to suggest Zane is the Ice Emperor.

      Well I think it will be a big twist this seadon like how Hurumi was The Quiet One.

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    • How would it be a big twist if most people saw it coming? I mean, yes it is not something that is extremely obvious like P.I.X.A.L. being Samurai X, but it still will not be a twist, if most predicted it.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      How would it be a big twist if most people saw it coming? I mean, yes it is not something that is extremely obvious like P.I.X.A.L. being Samurai X, but it still will not be a twist, if most predicted it.

      But people also saw the Hurumi twist coming.

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    • That was mainly, because synopses of upcoming episodes kind of spoiled it.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      That was mainly, because synopses of upcoming episodes kind of spoiled it.

      I know but, this theory seems plausible and it would be interisting. I see no reason to dismiss this theory at this point. If Zane is the prisoner than why did they not show his face in the prison scene. And in episode 2 home we see the other Ninja and Wu throw food with Zane refuse.

      So why would Zane throw food at the Bars. I find it unlikely Zane is the prisoner.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote:
      That was mainly, because synopses of upcoming episodes kind of spoiled it.

      I know but, this theory seems plausible and it would be interisting. I see no reason to dismiss this theory at this point. If Zane is the prisoner than why did they not show his face in the prison scene. And in episode 2 home we see the other Ninja and Wu throw food with Zane refuse.

      So why would Zane throw food at the Bars. I find it unlikely Zane is the prisoner.

      It wouldn't be that interesting if we all saw it coming.

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    • I’m not sure myself, but what if time moved faster in the Never-Realm?

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    • It is possible, yes. 

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    • It's not.

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    • Emperor Serpentine wrote: It's not.

      Tommy Andreasen stated that time moves differently in some other realms.

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    • This was already evidenced by the Sky Pirates surviving 200 years in different realms, we did not need Tommy to say it, it was already confirmed on the show itself long ago. However, time only passes differently in some realms, not all. In the Realm of Oni and Dragons, it was clearly passing the same way it does in Ninjago. The same goes for the UnderWorld, the Realm of Madness, the Cloud Kingdom, and Chima. 

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    • ok

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    • Ninja72 wrote: This was already evidenced by the Sky Pirates surviving 200 years in different realms, we did not need Tommy to say it, it was already confirmed on the show itself long ago. However, time only passes differently in some realms, not all. In the Realm of Oni and Dragons, it was clearly passing the same way it does in Ninjago. The same goes for the UnderWorld, the Realm of Madness, the Cloud Kingdom, and Chima. 

      I was too lazy to type a paragraph about the Sky Pirates but yeah, I know.

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    • Ninja72 wrote: This was already evidenced by the Sky Pirates surviving 200 years in different realms, we did not need Tommy to say it, it was already confirmed on the show itself long ago. However, time only passes differently in some realms, not all. In the Realm of Oni and Dragons, it was clearly passing the same way it does in Ninjago. The same goes for the UnderWorld, the Realm of Madness, the Cloud Kingdom, and Chima. 

      Some of the Sky Pirates could have been in a different time realm, but at least some of them had different reasons.

      • Clancee- He is a snake
      • Also, the others have wished for stuff
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    • Scrapper142valk wrote:

      Emperor Serpentine wrote: It's not.

      Tommy Andreasen stated that time moves differently in some other realms.

      When?

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    • Emperor Serpentine wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote: This was already evidenced by the Sky Pirates surviving 200 years in different realms, we did not need Tommy to say it, it was already confirmed on the show itself long ago. However, time only passes differently in some realms, not all. In the Realm of Oni and Dragons, it was clearly passing the same way it does in Ninjago. The same goes for the UnderWorld, the Realm of Madness, the Cloud Kingdom, and Chima. 

      Some of the Sky Pirates could have been in a different time realm, but at least some of them had different reasons.
      • Clancee- He is a snake
      • Also, the others have wished for stuff

      True, for Dogshank, Doubloon, and Monkey Wretch it could also be, because of their mutations, but for Flintlocke it was definitely because of time passing differently in the realm he was in, as he is just a normal human.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:

      Emperor Serpentine wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote: This was already evidenced by the Sky Pirates surviving 200 years in different realms, we did not need Tommy to say it, it was already confirmed on the show itself long ago. However, time only passes differently in some realms, not all. In the Realm of Oni and Dragons, it was clearly passing the same way it does in Ninjago. The same goes for the UnderWorld, the Realm of Madness, the Cloud Kingdom, and Chima. 

      Some of the Sky Pirates could have been in a different time realm, but at least some of them had different reasons.
      • Clancee- He is a snake
      • Also, the others have wished for stuff

      True, for Dogshank, Doubloon, and Monkey Wretch it could also be, because of their mutations, but for Flintlocke it was definitely because of time passing differently in the realm he was in, as he is just a normal human.

      Yep.

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    • What about the past elemental master of ice being corrupted into ice emperor I mean it could be right 😉

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    • The helmet resembles kozu but it won’t be him cause he dead

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    • Superssstar wrote:
      What about the past elemental master of ice being corrupted into ice emperor I mean it could be right 😉

      not really, because it was already revealed that the prior master of Ice passed over his ice powers to Zane while he was still living with Dr. Julien, thus the former master of ice would have no ice powers anymore and might already be long dead. plus there is no real reason for him to be in the Never-Realm.

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    • If Zane truly is the ice emperor I need to find a new favourite character or give up on Ninjago for ever

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    • Zane has been captured by Ice Emperor, so obiviously NOT Ice Emperor, also many other plot holes, like Ice Emperor was there BEFORE Zane. Not likely.

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    • How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote: How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

      In one episode, Nya mentioned the battery on the Titan Mech appeared to be new. If time did move fast, of course it would be weak due to being old

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

      This is possible, but not confirmed. 

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote: How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

      You act like this is a fact when it's only a theory.

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    • Yeah, that user is right. It is not impossible, but it is still not a confirmed fact.

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    • AGREED! Thank you! You do not have ANY concrete evidince, yet neither do we, so just chill. We'll figure it out when new episodes air.

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    • Ninja72 wrote: Yeah, that user is right. It is not impossible, but it is still not a confirmed fact.

      I know and Ninja 72 why have you not yet responded to the messages I sent you. And SkyNinja17 there is a lot of evidence. And with the soundtrack of Zane being manipulated for the blizzard Samurai how is Zane not the Ice emperor.

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    • Guys don’t fight it can’t be Zane because he saw the ice emperor in his vision look at it two ways

      The ice empower isn’t Zane but is someone new

      The ice emperor in the vision could be a foreshadowing of what Zane could become

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    • Just watched the episode unlikely ally vex speaks to an unknown prisoner asking the prisoner to join his army the prisoner said no right so there’s more evidence to this

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote: How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

      Very unlikely, since if that is the case, everyone will be dead when the Ninja return.

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    • Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote: How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

      Very unlikely, since if that is the case, everyone will be dead when the Ninja return.

      Actually now, they will not be. If that is the case, then since as of now the Ninja have been in the Never-Realm for several days, so if time really is faster in the Never-Realm, then it would be like they never left for Wu and P.I.X.A.L.

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    • Superstealth wrote:
      Just watched the episode unlikely ally vex speaks to an unknown prisoner asking the prisoner to join his army the prisoner said no right so there’s more evidence to this

      Wait, how?

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    • Ninja72 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote: How many times have we said time is faster in the Never-Realm and a few hours in ninjago is several decades in the Never-Realm.

      Very unlikely, since if that is the case, everyone will be dead when the Ninja return.

      Actually now, they will not be. If that is the case, then since as of now the Ninja have been in the Never-Realm for several days, so if time really is faster in the Never-Realm, then it would be like they never left for Wu and P.I.X.A.L.

      But yeah, I have no idea why people think time works differently in the Never-Realm. But they said that time is slower in the Never-Realm.

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    • wut -_-

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    • In the new trailer we see the Ice emperor holding the scroll and zane fighting the Ice dragon with the scroll.

      I think this is a flashback episode of Zane becoming the Ice emperor

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote: In the new trailer we see the Ice emperor holding the scroll and zane fighting the Ice dragon with the scroll.

      I think this is a flashback episode of Zane becoming the Ice emperor

      If so, then time does move faster in the Never-Realm

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      In the new trailer we see the Ice emperor holding the scroll and zane fighting the Ice dragon with the scroll.

      I think this is a flashback episode of Zane becoming the Ice emperor

      Stop acting like Zane being the Ice Emperor is a fact and not a theory. Him being the prisoner is just as, if not more likely.

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    • Just because they both control Ice, doesn't make Zane the Ice Emperor! Besides, the Ice Emperor has been around for years! Zane just got there! So, unless there's a time differential thing, I say this theory is false

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    • duh

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    • In The Message, Zane mentions he doesn’t know how many days had passed, so this might prove he is either the Ice Emperor, or his time recording was damaged.

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    • I think Zane not being the Ice Emperor is about as likely as the Green Ninja not being Lloyd after the vision that revealed he had the exact same eyes and eyebrows (while Lloyd himself has had the prophetic "green 5" on his shirt the whole time).

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    • Was that in episode 20?

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    • Ah, never mind, you are talking about that vision, when Zane was still in Ninjago. This still confirms nothing.

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    • As wu says only time will tell

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    • Yep.

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    • Considering the prisoner is neither Akita, nor Fugi-Dove, him being Zane has become more likely than it was before. So, both are likely at this point in time.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Considering the prisoner is neither Akita, nor Fugi-Dove, him being Zane has become more likely than it was before. So, both are likely at this point in time.

      The prisoner might be a new character. Or maybe Akita is not the same character as the wolf and it is Akita.

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    • Still, you can not deny the possibilty that it is Zane. If it was someone, whom the Ninja did not know, why would Vex offer the prisoner to spare Lloyd if the prisoner joins him? Аs I said, Zane being the prisoner is just as likely as him being the Ice Emperor as of this current point in time.

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    • Also, the wolf is clearly Akita, it has the same red markings as Akita in the sets (both in human and wolf form).

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    • Mabie she can divide her body to be in two places at once and when they reach the castile she could combine and be able to shapeshift. Or mabie the prisoner is another member of her species and she is heading into the castile with lloyd to rescue him.

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    • Ugh, accept the possibility that the prisoner might be Zane. We can not say it is definitely Zane, but it is poissible. Accept that possibilty.

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    • It's possible and mabie Vex is draing his life force so near the end of the season the Ice emperor can transfer his conciousness to zane.

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    • I don't think Zane is the Ice Emperor, because even if time passes differently in the Never-Realm, the Blizzard Samurai were probably around there for a very long time and the Ice Emperor was their ruler since the beggining.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      I don't think Zane is the Ice Emperor, because even if time passes differently in the Never-Realm, the Blizzard Samurai were probably around there for a very long time and the Ice Emperor was their ruler since the beggining.

      Well it's also possible that the Blizzard Samurai are just Zombies and  Ice beings Zane controls. And the appeared after he became the Ice emperor.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      I don't think Zane is the Ice Emperor, because even if time passes differently in the Never-Realm, the Blizzard Samurai were probably around there for a very long time and the Ice Emperor was their ruler since the beggining.

      Well, actually it was mentioned that the Ice Emperor conquered the realm only a few decades ago, so he has not really been there that long. Also, the Blizzard Archers and Sword Masters are beings that are just made of Ice, while the Blizzard Warriors are corrupted humans. So, he could still be the Ice Emperor if it passes differently. 

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Chimadino wrote:
      I don't think Zane is the Ice Emperor, because even if time passes differently in the Never-Realm, the Blizzard Samurai were probably around there for a very long time and the Ice Emperor was their ruler since the beggining.
      Well, actually it was mentioned that the Ice Emperor conquered the realm only a few decades ago, so he has not really been there that long. Also, the Blizzard Archers and Sword Masters are beings that are just made of Ice, while the Blizzard Warriors are corrupted humans. So, he could still be the Ice Emperor if it passes differently. 

      Plus, if the Ice Emperor have ruled over the Never-Realm since it's creation, one would think that the FSM would have mentioned it to Wu as an aditional reason not to travel there.

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    • By the way, if it does turn out to be true, should we put an image of Zane as the Ice Emperor in his infobox until he reverts to being himself again? If it turns out to be true, the pages would definitely have to get merged, but I am not sure about the image.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      By the way, if it does turn out to be true, should we put an image of Zane as the Ice Emperor in his infobox until he reverts to being himself again? If it turns out to be true, the pages would definitely have to get merged, but I am not sure about the image.

      I mean... at best i think it could be done like The Overlord and the Digital Overlord, that both have links that lead to the other's page.

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    • This is unnecessary. It is the same person. It would be like still having a separate page for Dr. Saunders or Samurai X. With the Overlord and the Digital Overlord, it is because his digital form was erased by the Techno Blades, so it has a different status.

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    • I think then it should be merged like how the dragon master page was merged with Wu. And they would add a Ice Emperor image to Zanes infobox.

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    • If it turns out to be true, we should definitely merge it. The image is the only thing I am not sure about.

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    • Chimadino wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      plus when looking at the images of the Ice Emperor and Zane from the show, there are a few similarities between the two that one can notice. Mind you, those similarities doesn't outright confirm that they are the same person. but i couldn't help but notice them:
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      For example, both have light blue gloves(?) and white cloth on their arms, and the Ice emperor's armor in the show looks to be colored gray instead of white, making him look more like a "titanium samurai". again, this doesn't prove much, but it's something that i noticed, and the more i watched of the episode, the more i started to move back to the idea that Zane is indeed the Ice Emperor. Plus there is that "deepest fear" that was revealed in "The Explorer's Club" about losing his humanity. Can't help but feel that, given how long he might have been holding on to the Forbidden scroll and being alone in the Never-Realm, that he might not be the same Nindroid that the Ninja know and love when they find him.
      This could be just pure coincidence.

      I think not.

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    • Why does the Titan Mech look like the Ice Emperor?

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    • Oh I didn't  notice that mabie Zane designed his new form to look like the Ice Emperor.

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    • uh, what are you two talking about? The Titan Mech doesn't look like the Ice Emperor, it just looks like a giant samurai. The Ice Emperor's armor isn't unique, we have seen samurai based armor before.

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      uh, what are you two talking about? The Titan Mech doesn't look like the Ice Emperor, it just looks like a giant samurai. The Ice Emperor's armor isn't unique, we have seen samurai based armor before.

      You're right, but who do you think he is?

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    • I think Lloyd's Titan Mech is looking like about Gundam.

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    • Look, the new episodes are coming soon. Maybe they hold the answer. I have a 50-50 chance because I coming up with a story where one OC is also banished to the Never-Realm

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    • I think episode 119 and 120 will have the twist.

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    • Only a few hours to go

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    • oh well the time difference has been confirmed in some magazine.

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    • Dang. Now we have to wait another week.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      oh well the time difference has been confirmed in some magazine.

      Where? Can you give a screenshot?

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    • It was in the visual dictionary.

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    • I hope the next episodes have the twist.

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    • I think the twist will be in episode 121 and 122 will be a flashback episode explaining it.

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    • PYTHOR IS THE EMPEROR HAHAHA

      (He is the Snake Emperor and not the Ice one, though)

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    • SquidHunter573 wrote:
      For the record, this is Mysteryman3177's theory, just thought I'd revive it. Because Zane just got sent to the Neverrealm place. And he was holding the scroll of forbidden spinjitzu. So... does this mean Zane ends up being the Ice Emporer after all?

      (Again, Mysteryman3177's theory, not mine)

      IMHO I feel like Zane being the Ice Emperor would be too obvious as a plot twist.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      I think the twist will be in episode 121 and 122 will be a flashback episode explaining it.

      It would be like the Fire Chapter where we found out Master Wu is the deciever.

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    • when watching the flashbacks, I always thought this may be true, plus with what i saw in the Ice Chapter Episode of The Emperor wanting to "Punish them" but Vex Replies back "destroy" and trys to go through with it, i do think Zane is the Emperor but i Don't think that it will be willingly, some sort of possesion or manipulation from General Vex. well thats my 2 cents.

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    • I think zane created general vex and that general vex is actually connected to the scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      I think zane created general vex and that general vex is actually connected to the scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu

      That would be interesting maybe destroy the scroll or get the scroll destroys the Ice samurai? I doubt that will be the case though.

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    • I hope the next two episodes are about Zane.

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    • I’m starting to think that’s not such a far fetched theory after all

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    • Here's my theory:

      The 16 Realms are like the Solar System.

      • Ninjago is on the inner rings where the Sun currently is.
      • We are saying the Never-Realm is the Sun.
      • The Never-Realm is located where Pluto is (whether it's a planet or not).

      Since their is a big time difference between the Ninjago and the Never-Realm, there is enough time for Vex to find Zane and somehow use his Ice powers to take over the Never-Realm. By the time the Ninja arrive, a tyrannical government was already set. 

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    • Coolcourt33 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      plus when looking at the images of the Ice Emperor and Zane from the show, there are a few similarities between the two that one can notice. Mind you, those similarities doesn't outright confirm that they are the same person. but i couldn't help but notice them:
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      For example, both have light blue gloves(?) and white cloth on their arms, and the Ice emperor's armor in the show looks to be colored gray instead of white, making him look more like a "titanium samurai". again, this doesn't prove much, but it's something that i noticed, and the more i watched of the episode, the more i started to move back to the idea that Zane is indeed the Ice Emperor. Plus there is that "deepest fear" that was revealed in "The Explorer's Club" about losing his humanity. Can't help but feel that, given how long he might have been holding on to the Forbidden scroll and being alone in the Never-Realm, that he might not be the same Nindroid that the Ninja know and love when they find him.
      This could be just pure coincidence.

      I think not.

      It could still be Zane. What if the prisoner is actually Akita’s brother, Kataru?

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      I believe The Ice emperor maybe Zane my theory is time moves faster in the never realm and its possible Zane has been there decades winch would allow the scroll of forbidden spinjitzu also his mask kind of loks like samurai X mask and his staff most likely the staff with the scroll covered in ice

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    • Uh, hang on. I just rewatched episode 24, and noticed the Ice Emperor didn’t have his staff. It could mean something, or could just mean nothing. I wouldn’t get my hopes up, though.

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    • Trent Knight wrote:

      Coolcourt33 wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      plus when looking at the images of the Ice Emperor and Zane from the show, there are a few similarities between the two that one can notice. Mind you, those similarities doesn't outright confirm that they are the same person. but i couldn't help but notice them:
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      For example, both have light blue gloves(?) and white cloth on their arms, and the Ice emperor's armor in the show looks to be colored gray instead of white, making him look more like a "titanium samurai". again, this doesn't prove much, but it's something that i noticed, and the more i watched of the episode, the more i started to move back to the idea that Zane is indeed the Ice Emperor. Plus there is that "deepest fear" that was revealed in "The Explorer's Club" about losing his humanity. Can't help but feel that, given how long he might have been holding on to the Forbidden scroll and being alone in the Never-Realm, that he might not be the same Nindroid that the Ninja know and love when they find him.
      This could be just pure coincidence.
      I think not.
      It could still be Zane. What if the prisoner is actually Akita’s brother, Kataru?

      We see in episode 112 in the seen where grimifax fails to please vex. That vex tells the ice emperor to banish him. And  he than threatens him with the Ice Staff. So the staff must be the Scroll of Forbidden Spinjitzu that had bee wrapped around the scepter because Zane never let go of it. And the ice emperors voice sound robotic. The voice sounds like his voice box has been damaged to the harsh conditions of the realm. 



      And  Vex a said in the flashback episode  that he has found elemental power. Something more powerful than the Formlings. This is obviously  Him meeting up with  Zane.

      We also see more of the Prisoner and  he doesn't look like Zane he is probably Ketaru.

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    • Kataru was frozen. Also, we have only seen the sillouethe of the prisoner, so you can not say what he does and does not look like. Please stop acting like your theory is a fact, it is becoming annoying. Possible, sure, but we can not say for definite. 

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    • That must be that, another thing must be that. Could, not must. Possible, but speculation nevertheless.

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    • Well what do you think happened to the formlings after the dragon froze them. I think some of them were turned into Blizzard Warriors. I think we will at least see Kataru again in this season. And if he is younger than the other formlings. Mabie he refused to join them and they are trying to brainwash him into becoming a Blizzard Warrior.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote: Well what do you think happened to the formlings after the dragon froze them. I think some of them were turned into Blizzard Warriors. I think we will at least see Kataru again in this season. And if he is younger than the other formlings. Mabie he refused to join them and they are trying to brainwash him into becoming a Blizzard Warrior.

      That last sentence is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Some of the Blizzard Samurai are frozen warriors, not brainwashed warriors.

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    • Scrapper142valk wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote: Well what do you think happened to the formlings after the dragon froze them. I think some of them were turned into Blizzard Warriors. I think we will at least see Kataru again in this season. And if he is younger than the other formlings. Mabie he refused to join them and they are trying to brainwash him into becoming a Blizzard Warrior.

      That last sentence is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Some of the Blizzard Samurai are frozen warriors, not brainwashed warriors.

      Well mabie kataru has the ability to avoid becoming a Blizzard Warrior and they are trying to convince him to join them.

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    • We still haven't seen proof freezing them like that is what turns people. Maybe they're just stuck like that until the IE is defeated.

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    • Maybe the ice made Blizzard Samurais are given life thanks to the beings who are frozen in ice crystals. Like they are some kind of "living battery" for some of the Samurais.

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    • Remember the scene when they almost froze lloyd. I think their corrupting ability is similar to a zombie Virus. I think that corrupts them and turns them into zombie warriors under the Ice emperors control.

      I think when they are frozen by the dragon, they are left to die or taken prisoner by the Ice emperor and left underneath his castile similar to sir fangar's fortress in legends of chima. 

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Trent Knight wrote:

      Coolcourt33 wrote:


      Chimadino wrote:
      DarkHenrik wrote:
      plus when looking at the images of the Ice Emperor and Zane from the show, there are a few similarities between the two that one can notice. Mind you, those similarities doesn't outright confirm that they are the same person. but i couldn't help but notice them:
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      For example, both have light blue gloves(?) and white cloth on their arms, and the Ice emperor's armor in the show looks to be colored gray instead of white, making him look more like a "titanium samurai". again, this doesn't prove much, but it's something that i noticed, and the more i watched of the episode, the more i started to move back to the idea that Zane is indeed the Ice Emperor. Plus there is that "deepest fear" that was revealed in "The Explorer's Club" about losing his humanity. Can't help but feel that, given how long he might have been holding on to the Forbidden scroll and being alone in the Never-Realm, that he might not be the same Nindroid that the Ninja know and love when they find him.
      This could be just pure coincidence.
      I think not.
      It could still be Zane. What if the prisoner is actually Akita’s brother, Kataru?
      We see in episode 112 in the seen where grimifax fails to please vex. That vex tells the ice emperor to banish him. And  he than threatens him with the Ice Staff. So the staff must be the Scroll of Forbidden Spinjitzu that had bee wrapped around the scepter because Zane never let go of it. And the ice emperors voice sound robotic. The voice sounds like his voice box has been damaged to the harsh conditions of the realm. 



      And  Vex a said in the flashback episode  that he has found elemental power. Something more powerful than the Formlings. This is obviously  Him meeting up with  Zane.

      We also see more of the Prisoner and  he doesn't look like Zane he is probably Ketaru.

      But wasn't the Ice Emperor voiced by someone else?

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    • Yeah, he was. But so was P.I.X.A.L. as Samurai X.

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    • If you look closely, it appears the Ice Emperor doesn’t have his staff. But don’t get your hopes up. 31B8439B-33A5-4B78-BB70-FB96A4494FE5

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    • Trent Knight wrote:
      If you look closely, it appears the Ice Emperor doesn’t have his staff. But don’t get your hopes up.

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      I mean... who is to say that the scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu hasn't already done it's damage to Zane's mind by that point? I don't think it would work like it makes people evil as long as they hold the scroll and more that the feeling of the scroll's power can end up corrupting someone over time if they can't control it.

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    • with saying he has found a new power an elimental one (i believe he says something along those lines) it makes me even more believing of this theory and that Vex is the real Villain manipulating an already corruped by the Scroll zane (as i believe is shown in the Grimfax return scene)

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      Trent Knight wrote:
      If you look closely, it appears the Ice Emperor doesn’t have his staff. But don’t get your hopes up.

      31B8439B-33A5-4B78-BB70-FB96A4494FE5

      I mean... who is to say that the scroll of Forbidden spinjitzu hasn't already done it's damage to Zane's mind by that point? I don't think it would work like it makes people evil as long as they hold the scroll and more that the feeling of the scroll's power can end up corrupting someone over time if they can't control it.

      You're probably right.

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    • I think that Kataru is the prisoner while Zane is the Ice Emperor. In the episode where Vex talks about the stranger in green, the Ice Emperor pauses, like he knows Lloyd. The only reason he didn't say that was probably the scroll. BTW, they posted the new episode titles and the summaries for those on the main page. I bet all of Zane's dream will come true in the next few episodes. There are only a few left.

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    • The new synopsis gives us hints.

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    • Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?

      Yeah Zane is definitely the Ice emperor.

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    • Does anyone know where the link for the synopses are? Someone said Cartoon Network New Zealand, but I can't find it.

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    • Destinyy18 wrote:
      Does anyone know where the link for the synopses are? Someone said Cartoon Network New Zealand, but I can't find it.

      Can't link to it exactly, but if you type Ninjago in the search bar here , you'll see it.

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    • Strange, I was looking on that website earlier. I only see the synopses for like the first 5 episodes of the season, I'll look into it more later.

      Nvm. I found it, it looks so weird.

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    • I can't wait for the new episodes!

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    • Me too, I'm already dying for them.

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    • Now the question is: How did Zane become the Ice Emperor?

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    • Something with Vex and almost most definitely the scroll.

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    • There must be a time difference between Ninjago and the Never-Realm.

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    • Yeah, I wonder what that will look like when it's shown in the episodes.

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    • Solar system?

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    • lol, that would be interesting

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    • Since Akita is out to get revenge against the Blizzard Samurai, what if she acciddently kills Zane?

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    • I'm kinda worried about that too. But, I'm pretty sure the ninja won't let her. They'll probably try to get the staff out of Zane's hands and promote some sort of punishment on Vex.

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    • By the way, is this real? http://iflix-tvshow.site/series/253323/11/25 I think it's fake, but I can't see.

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    • There's no way the season ends in a happy ending. Something must give.

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    • Hmm. Well, the only happy thing I would want most is Zane and P.I.X.A.L., Wu and rest of the ninja reunited.

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    • Destinyy18 wrote:
      By the way, is this real? http://iflix-tvshow.site/series/253323/11/25 I think it's fake, but I can't see.

      I tried to access the link, but it didn't take me anywhere.

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    • 2019-09-26
      It's supposed to show this, but after I click on it, I need an account.
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    • The website is from Malaysia. I cannot access it from the US.

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    • Hmm, really? I live in the U.S., but either way, I'm guessing it's fake and I'm certainly not making an account just to find out if so. I wish there were comments somewhere about the status.

      nvm, lol, someone said it was fake and only about minecraft XD

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    • Printer89 wrote: There's no way the season ends in a happy ending. Something must give.

      If that’s so, this could be like Season 8.

      Also, even though I’m still sceptical about this, but look at the sleeves of these two photos

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      Once again, don’t get your hopes up.

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    • get the feeling this will end in a bitter sweet tone seasons almost over and still they trap 

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    • Some info about episode 25 and 26: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-xfV_il4Z8

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?
      Yeah Zane is definitely the Ice emperor.

      Yes, now it is 100% confirmed. Before it was only a theory. Why are they spoiling it in the synopses though?

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    • Well should we merge the pages yet.

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    • No.

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    • Also, no putting stuff such as "He is Zane" on the Ice Emperor page. It is technically speculation. The synopses do not say that directly. 

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    • He is Zane, though.

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    • Yes, he is, but no matter how obvious things are, speculation is still not allowed.

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    • I remember TTV (The Three Virtues Youtube channel) having a discussion with the Zane/Ice Emperor theory and wondered if the season might end with Zane either dying for good or staying as a villain, given how Nya has currenty tried to master control over the frozen water in the ice, thus pottentionally making her a new "master of Ice". There is no proff that they will kill of Zane, or that Nya will take his place. But it's something that made me wonder.

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    • Highly doubt that. We are at Season 11. I think it is clear at this point they are not gonna kill off a Ninja.

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    • Yeah, this happens basically every season. People have big theories and expectations for the ending, and it ends up being the usual. Zane's gonna be fine. I don't know what the "Nya controls ice" thing will lead to though. Maybe she unthaws the frozen people to help.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?
      Yeah Zane is definitely the Ice emperor.
      Yes, now it is 100% confirmed. Before it was only a theory. Why are they spoiling it in the synopses though?

      I told people that he was! Wasn't I right?!

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    • Nobody said you are wrong, we just said that it is not confirmed and not to act like it is. 

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Nobody said you are wrong, we just said that it is not confirmed and not to act like it is. 

      Ok.

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    • It is annoying, when people treat their theories as confirmed facts. 

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    • @Ninja72 that comma was un-necessary...

      Sorry, I am a little bit of a grammar freak sometimes.

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    • I believe that if they destroy the scroll, they'll free Zane

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    • Regidor DangerBuff wrote:
      @Ninja72 that comma was un-necessary...

      Sorry, I am a little bit of a grammar freak sometimes.

      Ah ok. This is punctuation rather than grammar though.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      It is annoying, when people treat their theories as confirmed facts. 

      Sorry! I will try not to do that again!

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    • Ninja72 wrote:

      Regidor DangerBuff wrote:
      @Ninja72 that comma was un-necessary...

      Sorry, I am a little bit of a grammar freak sometimes.

      Ah ok. This is punctuation rather than grammar though.

      ...and sometimes I am not good at grammar-like my previous comment when I said grammar instead of punctuation.... XD

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    • It is ok. You are not the first to correct my punctuation and confuse between punctuation and grammar while doing it. The first was this guy https://ninjago.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:33374#41 :D :D

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    • Hey in the description of one of the new episodes it said  Lloyd befriended Grimifax and Katara meaning Grimifac will turn good and Katara will team up with lloyd. And it said lloyd was captured by the ice emperor so he will probably free and meet Katara in this episode.

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    • Yeah u got that from my pics. Am I right?

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    • I guess those episodes aren’t coming until November. I feel like they’re torturing us.

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    • Trent Knight wrote: I guess those episodes aren’t coming until November. I feel like they’re torturing us.

      Not necessarily unless the episodes don't resume next week.

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    • Trent Knight wrote:
      I guess those episodes aren’t coming until November. I feel like they’re torturing us.

      November is when they are airing in Canada, but they might air in Australia sooner than that.

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    • Tmoneydaninja wrote:
      Yeah u got that from my pics. Am I right?

      Uh, nope. 

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:
      Hey in the description of one of the new episodes it said  Lloyd befriended Grimifax and Katara meaning Grimifac will turn good and Katara will team up with lloyd. And it said lloyd was captured by the ice emperor so he will probably free and meet Katara in this episode.

      * Kataru. Not Katara. This is not Avatar: The Last Airbender, lol.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:

      Tmoneydaninja wrote:
      Yeah u got that from my pics. Am I right?

      Uh, nope. 

      They probably will make us wait till November. Remember what happened in the Fire Chapter. The first 8 episodes aired in early june in Ukraine and we had to wait until late june for the episode. I think we will have to wait until late October or early November to see the end of the season.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote:

      Tmoneydaninja wrote:
      Yeah u got that from my pics. Am I right?
      Uh, nope. 
      They probably will make us wait till November. Remember what happened in the Fire Chapter. The first 8 episodes aired in early june in Ukraine and we had to wait until late june for the episode. I think we will have to wait until late October or early November to see the end of the season.

      What happened in the Fire Chapter was nothing like this. It is just one of those cases, when it starts airing in another language before it starts airing in English. The same thing happened with S5, which started airing in Italy, Germany, and Bulgaria (my country), before it started airing in English.The entirety of S7 also aired in another language before it aired in English. It is currently airing in Australia, so unless they go on a break too, we will not wait until November.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote:


      Tmoneydaninja wrote:
      Yeah u got that from my pics. Am I right?
      Uh, nope. 
      They probably will make us wait till November. Remember what happened in the Fire Chapter. The first 8 episodes aired in early june in Ukraine and we had to wait until late june for the episode. I think we will have to wait until late October or early November to see the end of the season.
      What happened in the Fire Chapter was nothing like this. It is just one of those cases, when it starts airing in another language before it starts airing in English. The same thing happened with S5, which started airing in Italy, Germany, and Bulgaria (my country), before it started airing in English.The entirety of S7 also aired in another language before it aired in English. It is currently airing in Australia, so unless they go on a break too, we will not wait until November.

      Yeah, but we don't have release dates for the episodes in Australia. But if they do air we will still have to wait until mid octiber.

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    • Yeah, that is true.

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    • Printer89 wrote: There's no way the season ends in a happy ending. Something must give.

      The Ninja are stuck in the Never-Realm forever.

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    • Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote:
      Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?

      Yeah Zane is definitely the Ice emperor.

      If that is true I am going to jump off the roof of my house.

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    • It is. The synopses clearly give it away. "Having learned the terrible truth of Zane s fate" This implies his fate is not what Lloyd thought it was. "How Zane fell under the sway of the villianous Vex" We know Vex met the Ice Emperor sometime during his exile.

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    • Plus, episode 27 is titled Corruption.

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    • Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote:
      Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?

      Yeah Zane is definitely the Ice emperor.

      If that is true I am going to jump off the roof of my house.

      Why?

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:

      Chimadino wrote:

      Mysteryman3177 wrote:

      Ninja72 wrote:
      Not just hints. It basically confirms it without saying it directly. First Harumi, now this. What is it with them putting such major spoilers in synopses?

      Yeah Zane is definitely the Ice emperor.

      If that is true I am going to jump off the roof of my house.

      Why?

      Are you seriously asking me this?

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    • Ninja72 wrote: Plus, episode 27 is titled Corruption.

      That doesn't say much.

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    • Ninja72 wrote: It is. The synopses clearly give it away. "Having learned the terrible truth of Zane s fate" This implies his fate is not what Lloyd thought it was. "How Zane fell under the sway of the villianous Vex" We know Vex met the Ice Emperor sometime during his exile.

      Ok, I am dead.

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    • huh. I’m kinda upset that it looks like we’re getting a “friendship is power” ending from a show like this.

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      synopses of episodes 27-30 of season 11

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    • What did you expect? This is Ninjago. They never do something that is too sad.

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    • true, but giving us a “friendship is magic and it triumphs all evil” is at least kinda disappointing.

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    • How? By now you should be used to it.

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    • Ninja72 wrote:
      How? By now you should be used to it.

      I think they mean it more that Ninjago so far have never really used "the power of friendship" as the way to solve their problems. As in... never gone full "My Little Ponie: Friendship is Magic"

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    • Meboresearch wrote: huh. I’m kinda upset that it looks like we’re getting a “friendship is power” ending from a show like this.

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      synopses of episodes 27-30 of season 11

      What site did you get the synopses from?

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    • DarkHenrik wrote:
      Ninja72 wrote:
      How? By now you should be used to it.
      I think they mean it more that Ninjago so far have never really used "the power of friendship" as the way to solve their problems. As in... never gone full "My Little Ponie: Friendship is Magic"

      True, but I do not think they are doing that now either.

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    • If they are, it is totally lame.

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    • Regidor DangerBuff wrote:

      Meboresearch wrote: huh. I’m kinda upset that it looks like we’re getting a “friendship is power” ending from a show like this.

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      synopses of episodes 27-30 of season 11

      What site did you get the synopses from?

      Wikipedia, why

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    • Meboresearch wrote:

      Regidor DangerBuff wrote:

      Meboresearch wrote: huh. I’m kinda upset that it looks like we’re getting a “friendship is power” ending from a show like this.

      81C408F6-4AA1-40CA-B5FB-A37B0E29D0C2

      synopses of episodes 27-30 of season 11

      What site did you get the synopses from?

      Wikipedia, why

      Never trust a Wikipedia! Anyone can write stuff there. Maybe the Ice Emperor wrote that so we would think he is Zane.

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    • LOL!

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    • imagine that

      • ice emperor: haha plot twist plot twist let’s EDIT A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE!

      I believed these because they lined up with what other people had seen on other sites.

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    • Meboresearch wrote:

      Regidor DangerBuff wrote:

      Meboresearch wrote: huh. I’m kinda upset that it looks like we’re getting a “friendship is power” ending from a show like this.

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